That sounds like it has the potential to be an interesting page. Personally, I try to be pretty generous when deleting pages--I won't delete your page unless it is obviously not constructive or is completely redundant.
That being said, I don't see anything wrong with a pager quotes page, as long as it's done right. We already have pager quotes on the respective character pages, so just make sure the page brings something new to the table, and try not to duplicate any information that already exists on another page. If you to include the pager quotes from another character page, transcluding the quotes would be better than copy-pasting all the text.
Also, the new page should have some advantage over the current pages. I don't know what your vision is for the page, but I do always love to see people adding content to the wiki. By all means, start up a page for the pager quotes. I'd be happy to give some more feedback once I see how you set up the page.
That's not quite what I mean. I mean quotes from the actual pager guy, like when he says "you drinking on the job again?" or "I give you a break and this is how you repay me?" or "Drop the pager again and I'm sounding the fucking alarm.". The pager guy/operator. I don't think I phrased my other comment right.
Off the top of my head I can think of categories like the first pager (fine with everything), the second (slightly agitated), the third (starts to warn), and the fourth (gets angry and seriously warns the crew). Other subheaders would be like him demanding the crew to pick up the pager before it expires.
Making actual content for this page wouldn't be a problem at all. I searched YouTube a second ago and have a video that is 9 minutes and 17 seconds in length for the pager guy's two second lines. That would take me about forty-five minutes to do if I'm slow. It has been uploaded by the same guy who does all of the crew member quotes and pager responses, so I'm sure it will be throrough and accurate.
The only problems that I can see with this page are that it might be hard to differentiate between the different contexts of the pager responses. I'll try as best as I can not to devolve it into one big general category. The other problem is probably my computer, which, as I've mentioned before, cannot create new pages. All I need is a page creation and then I'll handle the rest.
But one page for all pager responses actually sounds pretty good. And other things that I want to do are the missing "Jacket/Quotes" and "John Wick/Quotes" which no one has ever created for some reason. I want to get around to all quotes pages and fill them in with new lines, but I'm not afraid to grind out the new voice lines. I have messaged someone else about this, but you seem a lot more active and reliable.
I'll be pretty busy tomorrow so best I can do is get it down about seventeen hours from now (compensating for time differences).
And I could probably get around to doing that, Stoudemire.
That sounds great! I wasn't sure if there were enough unique pager operator quotes to warrant it having its own page, but I'd forgotten that there are different responses for 1, 2, 3, and 4 pagers, so there ought to be plenty content.
Take your time; I'm excited to see how the page looks when it's ready. I'd also greatly appreciate it if you have the chance to get around to the Jacket and John Wick quotes (they are actually my mains), but as I said, there's no hurry. Thanks for taking the initiative. I'll be sure to check out the page once it's ready.
I've "successfully" converted one of the infoboxes, throwables, to the new format (on a test template so as to not affect existing pages Template:Infobox test1) and have a working example on my sandbox page. It's missing a lot of the styling, since I cannot access the .css pages for the Wikia. As well, a lot of the text seems to be difficult to edit. For aesthetics sake, it may pay off to hold on any kind of conversions you may have planned.
Some of the issues I ran into were:
Invariable text sizes
Poor positioning of text on the templates
Semi-confusing syntax (although, I suppose I'm just biased since I like the old syntax)
Some pros, however include:
None to minor changes needed on the current pages using the templates. It seems viable to make the converted template use the same inputs, so the infoboxes currently on pages do not need to be changed.
Human readable syntax
Doesn't look terrible in it's default CSS state
Feel free to edit my sandbox as you please as well as the template I've linked.
I wanted to, @Hassat, but stylizing the text in the template is currently impossible. I can't center anything. And there is 100% nothing wrong with Rhyzak's. I actually think we should stick with his/hers until Wikia gives us more control with their new system. It looks better, works better, and overall is just a better option for our current needs.
However, if you need a breakdown of what test1 is, I'll go and codenote up the syntax. Should make it easier to read.
I'm still really new to the Wikia, so if this needs to be handled differently, let me know. Don't want to mess anything up.
First off, welcome to the wiki! We're glad to have all the help we can get. As for projects, you've caught me at a rather odd time as an editor... I almost always have at least one pet project, but I'm between projects right now and I can't think of anything pressing.
However, I can direct you to our to-do list:
As always, we might need some assistance with collecting and posting information related to recent releases :
The Golden Grin Casino, variants and strategies
Details on Sokol, his voice lines and their meaning (any Russian speakers around?)
Any updates regarding the secret rewards from the Completely Overkill DLC
That should probably cover pretty much what should be done for the time being. Other than that, if you would like to help us with certain tasks, check out our to-do list.
We're also constantly looking to revise our current articles to improve accuracy, succinctness, and grammar, so you can peruse some of our articles if that's your cup of tea.
If you'd like, you can ask around with some of the other contributors as well; GFreeman or Jemjar may have a more focused project for you to attend to.
Aside from that, let me know if you've got any questions and I'll do my best to help you find the answers you're looking for. Thanks again for stopping by!
It'll help more to know how much PD2 you play, what platform you use and what gameplay you like most - and then how good your technical skills on Wikia are.
Basic housekeeping might be needed on some stuff - I'm not 100% sure that the melee weapons all have correct stats on both their own pages and the melee weapons category page but it's a tedious job which I'll get round to some time soon (I have all the screenshots).
To be honest, just hitting "Random Page" and correcting typos and dodgy grammar might help.
If you're feeling really keen, get to grips with one of the main infobox templates and write some proper documentation for them, it's increasingly becoming an arcane art.
Somewhat ironically, given you're the architect of most of the current category structure, you've got a blog post (Individualized skill pages) which is tagged to the non-existent category "SkillTree skills" (obviously a place-holder, given the attempt at a template page) and which, in turn, lists that category as a "Wanted Category" on the admin dash.
There are a few red links on the same blog post (hidden from view, sneaky) which are popping up as "Wanted Pages" - any chance you could remove the links? Or I could do it myself, with your permission.
Yeah, that's understandable. There's been some confusion between Vlad and Bain anyway, even at Overkill. I think the most recent patches changed it, but for a long time the voice lines in Jewelry Store indicated that Vlad was the contractor of the heist, and not Bain. This would make sense, as Ukrainian Job is merely the Pro version of Jewelry Store, but alas!
In any case, the voice lines in question are Bain's voice lines, correct? I don't seem to recall Vlad having any lines in that heist, but I could very well be mistaken.
I wrote that when I thought they removed the front seat firing capability of the Muscle car, but later a Wikia user in the comments mentioned it was still in, it just requires one to use a button (crouch).
Haha no worries, I make silly mistakes like that all the time. I haven't had the pleasure of experimenting with the new vehicles just yet on account of exams, but reading over that sentence in the article something just didn't seem to fit in ;)
Already posted this to GFreeman, but no reply... so if it seems familiar, that's why ;)
Special:WantedPages is riddled with pages that only appear due to the link in "welcome to the wiki, thanks for modifying [[No Longer Existant Page here]]"
Anything that can be done about that so we can actually use it to find valid red-links?
Hey, thanks for the reminder! As of now, the deletion category should be sparkly and clean; all of the pages and files there have been dealt with appropriately.
Still quite a number of links to go in the Special:WantedPages, but I will keep working on it.
Edit: I decided that for some of the more popular missing links it would be easier to just create a redirect page, rather than delete each link individually. I should be able to get rid of the more common pages fairly easily.
At the time, I think I was concerned that there would be some ambiguity if they were all labeled simply (skill). For example, Sharpshooter from PD:TH might reasonable be confused for a "skill" by someone in a hurry, so I fear that label wouldn't completely serve its purpose of disambiguation.
Those were just my personal thoughts when I created the pages; I'm not sure if others would agree. What do you think we should do?
I don't really know whether it's necessary to name each page (Skill) as it's pretty obvious in many cases and where necessary it is specified. However, I'd suggest that given that PD2 is the active Payday title, with easily the larger number of current players, it would be fair to drop (Payday 2) from Sharpshooter (Payday 2) and instead rename Sharpshooter as Sharpshooter (Payday: The Heist).
It might be worth considering a sort of "hierarchy" of pages in order to decide which page(s) should have the suffix added.
I agree that we should try to establish a better naming "hierarchy" but this would involve renaming a rather large number of pages and categories, so we should try to reach some sort of community consensus.